Comments on: The Next JBoss http://www.pageonepr.com/blog/2009/03/30/the-next-jboss/ Page One is a public relations firm focusing on Open Source companies with offices in San Francisco, Palo Alto, Santa Barbara, Portland, Denver, Boston, London and Tokyo. Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:19:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Chantal Yang http://www.pageonepr.com/blog/2009/03/30/the-next-jboss/comment-page-1/#comment-141 Chantal Yang Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:54:00 +0000 http://pseudothoughts.com/?p=47#comment-141 Andy, thanks for your comment. Great to hear from you. Blogs seem to have become mandatory now, so you guys were years ahead. They still provide a versatile and informal way to elucidate the different sides of a story that do not necessarily make it to more mainstream channels. Moreover, with a changing media landscape, PR can't rely on traditional media to produce content alone. We have to produce content, too, and push it out through other channels. Andy, thanks for your comment. Great to hear from you. Blogs seem to have become mandatory now, so you guys were years ahead. They still provide a versatile and informal way to elucidate the different sides of a story that do not necessarily make it to more mainstream channels. Moreover, with a changing media landscape, PR can’t rely on traditional media to produce content alone. We have to produce content, too, and push it out through other channels.

]]> By: Andrew C. Oliver http://www.pageonepr.com/blog/2009/03/30/the-next-jboss/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Andrew C. Oliver Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:14:00 +0000 http://pseudothoughts.com/?p=47#comment-140 I always wondered how you were crazy enough to put up with us. I still wonder whether the same strategy esp the blog part still works. When I installed the blog software everyone insisted it was a waste of time...before long everyone was doing it and Marc said "BLOGGING MANDATORY" :-). To me a key piece of effectiveness was keeping the blog central, but after the merger it quickly broke up. I guess controversy is harder to get past HR at a C corp. Glad we had the support of a PR firm with a SPINE. I always wondered how you were crazy enough to put up with us. I still wonder whether the same strategy esp the blog part still works. When I installed the blog software everyone insisted it was a waste of time…before long everyone was doing it and Marc said “BLOGGING MANDATORY” :-) . To me a key piece of effectiveness was keeping the blog central, but after the merger it quickly broke up. I guess controversy is harder to get past HR at a C corp. Glad we had the support of a PR firm with a SPINE.

]]> By: Craig Oda http://www.pageonepr.com/blog/2009/03/30/the-next-jboss/comment-page-1/#comment-139 Craig Oda Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:40:00 +0000 http://pseudothoughts.com/?p=47#comment-139 Good point about moxie and thick skin. It takes both a special person and a willingness take risks to fail and succeed in public. Good point about moxie and thick skin. It takes both a special person and a willingness take risks to fail and succeed in public.

]]> By: Chantal Yang http://www.pageonepr.com/blog/2009/03/30/the-next-jboss/comment-page-1/#comment-138 Chantal Yang Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:37:00 +0000 http://pseudothoughts.com/?p=47#comment-138 Craig, thanks for your comment. I think taking the high road works for most people because it's easier to be liked. To fight back, to stand your ground takes a great amount of moxie and thick skin. Craig, thanks for your comment. I think taking the high road works for most people because it’s easier to be liked. To fight back, to stand your ground takes a great amount of moxie and thick skin.

]]> By: Chantal Yang http://www.pageonepr.com/blog/2009/03/30/the-next-jboss/comment-page-1/#comment-137 Chantal Yang Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:26:00 +0000 http://pseudothoughts.com/?p=47#comment-137 Koen, I don't know if I'm ready to call it "Web 3.0" yet, but I believe people would much rather have more information that they can sort through than less. Fortunately, to manage this excess, we have many tools that help us get only what we want. Even in these, you can see an evolution from opt-in email newsletters to RSS feeds to Digg to Twitter. Tomorrow, something else (http://gigaom.com/2009/03/31/why-bitly-could-upstage-digg/)? Koen, I don’t know if I’m ready to call it “Web 3.0″ yet, but I believe people would much rather have more information that they can sort through than less. Fortunately, to manage this excess, we have many tools that help us get only what we want. Even in these, you can see an evolution from opt-in email newsletters to RSS feeds to Digg to Twitter. Tomorrow, something else (http://gigaom.com/2009/03/31/why-bitly-could-upstage-digg/)?

]]> By: Craig Oda http://www.pageonepr.com/blog/2009/03/30/the-next-jboss/comment-page-1/#comment-136 Craig Oda Wed, 01 Apr 2009 00:16:00 +0000 http://pseudothoughts.com/?p=47#comment-136 I really like this post. It has an authentic voice. I especially like this: <br/><br/><i>"It's always a good idea to take the high road, but there are times when it really pays to be scrappy. If you're the David in a hot market with lots of Goliath players, you can't always turn the other cheek. Those willing to put up a good fight have a fighting chance."</i><br/><br/>The reason I like it so much that PR advice is often safe and generic. In 90% of the cases, it is better to take the high road. So, PR people often give this advice to the client. However, in the trade off of risk and reward, sometimes the risks pay off, sometimes they pay off big. <br/><br/>It takes a special type of person to be able to continually fight over controversial ideas. Most people would get psychologically exhausted by the constant battle. However, there are times when it really works. I really like this post. It has an authentic voice. I especially like this:

“It’s always a good idea to take the high road, but there are times when it really pays to be scrappy. If you’re the David in a hot market with lots of Goliath players, you can’t always turn the other cheek. Those willing to put up a good fight have a fighting chance.”

The reason I like it so much that PR advice is often safe and generic. In 90% of the cases, it is better to take the high road. So, PR people often give this advice to the client. However, in the trade off of risk and reward, sometimes the risks pay off, sometimes they pay off big.

It takes a special type of person to be able to continually fight over controversial ideas. Most people would get psychologically exhausted by the constant battle. However, there are times when it really works.

]]> By: Koen Aers http://www.pageonepr.com/blog/2009/03/30/the-next-jboss/comment-page-1/#comment-135 Koen Aers Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:31:00 +0000 http://pseudothoughts.com/?p=47#comment-135 Maybe it's me but sometimes I wonder how it is possible to keep track of the real valuable information in this web 3.0 world. Don't you think that the overload of information makes people more indifferent and tends to make people overlook the good stuff that is coming out? Maybe it’s me but sometimes I wonder how it is possible to keep track of the real valuable information in this web 3.0 world. Don’t you think that the overload of information makes people more indifferent and tends to make people overlook the good stuff that is coming out?

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